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Post by Forlorn »

On the mention of items...is it possible to make some unique items? Items like the Old Dasarian Blade except theres only one or at most a few of them. This way, these items would be not only loved, but cherished. They don't have to be of holy avenger quality, they could range from being +1 to +5. Maybe there could be a folder with these items and once in a while one of the devs could put one or two as loot in one of the boss treasures or on a boss itself. Then, the next time a player kills or loots it, he would get that item.

The problem I see with this is...how much work would it be putting in a unique item? Would scripts have to be changed, or would there need to be some major editing within the toolset in order to do this. If its not too hard to do, I vote we have a variety of unique items on this server. I'm sure the players would love this idea, and I think Dasaria would be one of the most original servers out there if the devs could implement this idea. Thoughts?
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Post by Grayle »

Unique items are part of the Dasarian campaign. They are generally asociated with DM Events, as rewards.
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Post by Forlorn »

Grayle wrote:Unique items are part of the Dasarian campaign. They are generally asociated with DM Events, as rewards.
While this is the currently most popular method of distributing unique items, I tend to see some drawbacks:

* Usually these items are very powerful and therefore low to mid level PCs will never be able to access them.
* Dms will give a unique item only to a player(s) he/she likes. This tends to foster elitism.
* If they are given out only during DM events, then they will be a little too rare. 99.9% of the player base will never know a unique item.
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Post by Grayle »

You're assuming.
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Post by Peregrinus »

Forlorn wrote:* Usually these items are very powerful and therefore low to mid level PCs will never be able to access them.
Hardly true for Dasaria, DMs tend to give out items to any players involved, and events have never had a level restriction to them. I took part in my first even with a level 7 character. While I did not get a unique item, we all did get XP and rewards.
* Dms will give a unique item only to a player(s) he/she likes. This tends to foster elitism.
Again, hardly the case on Dasaria. I know at least one DM who didn't even know me well at the time giving me a nice reward item. Then again, Dasaria has some very good DMs. Ironically, I never got a good reward item from the DMs I knew and would have considered friends... Yes, Wyvren, this means you, rather, I more likely got ambushed by Claw from him.
* If they are given out only during DM events, then they will be a little too rare. 99.9% of the player base will never know a unique item.
ROFLMAO... once the DMs get out of building phase and get a good DM client, I expect they'll be throwing two to three events per week, at various times, double on weekends. Their plots tend to involve as much of the community as possible, and in fact, on Dasaria 1, I think that the majority of players probably had seen at least one unique item for one of their characters.
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Ravenswatch...er ....Clang?

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Cha +1

tribute to Meldvion Paladin Flame Bearer of Girru??

Anyone wants to make it I don't mind writtin the piece for it. Unless meldy is still here and wants to do his own
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Post by Coasty1981 »

Keep the ideas coming guys I really like all these. I know Jeh is looking for only the basic +1s and 2s right now but nothing to say I can't do the rest and present them still.

If the staff doesn't use them I can easily change the description text and give it to other people I know making PWs.
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Post by Dm Chicken Little »

Forlorn wrote:
Grayle wrote:Unique items are part of the Dasarian campaign. They are generally asociated with DM Events, as rewards.
While this is the currently most popular method of distributing unique items, I tend to see some drawbacks:

* Usually these items are very powerful and therefore low to mid level PCs will never be able to access them.
* Dms will give a unique item only to a player(s) he/she likes. This tends to foster elitism.
* If they are given out only during DM events, then they will be a little too rare. 99.9% of the player base will never know a unique item.
Nah, I loved to make low level items, however the problem lies in characters trying to mule out their characters. When i would log on and see that the 10 level pc im about to interact with has gear all handed down from his pc who had to be 20th level just to earn it, it soured the experience.

There isnt much a DM can do about the perception of favortism. The harder you try at times to avoid it, the louder the complaints of it become.
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Post by Grayle »

It would be nice if Unique items could be glued to characters, like WoW did with binded stuff.

Unique items are one of my favorate aspects of the game...not just the extremely powerful weapons and armor, but just random icon equipment that can live in the inventory. Holy symbols, cups, mirrors, ropes, etc with misc. effects that need not have much power at all.
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Post by Dm Chicken Little »

Grayle wrote:It would be nice if Unique items could be glued to characters, like WoW did with binded stuff.

Unique items are one of my favorate aspects of the game...not just the extremely powerful weapons and armor, but just random icon equipment that can live in the inventory. Holy symbols, cups, mirrors, ropes, etc with misc. effects that need not have much power at all.
I would like to this time name the unique items we send out for DM events, and when i find the named item of Bob's Razor on Jerry, friend of Bob, ask why it got there.
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Post by Coasty1981 »

Actually if the curse tag just means you can't get rid of it. That might be an easy way to bind items to people. Course there is the work around for remove curse then trade it but you could remove the curse spell and remove curse from the Dasaria Spell lists.

Just an idea.
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Post by Ludovic »

There's a way to make an item useable only be a certain character, I'm sure. At least there was in NwN1 as I've seen it done before. One would assume the same can be done here, but I'd think this, like many things, is of small concern at the moment.
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Post by Zephis »

Uhm... I think your all starting to go a bit TO far.
Locking items to people... making things cursed... plot, changing all sorts of things... Just seems a bit to.. much to me.
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Post by KoolestLoser »

Zephis wrote:Uhm... I think your all starting to go a bit TO far.
Locking items to people... making things cursed... plot, changing all sorts of things... Just seems a bit to.. much to me.
Locking a unique item to a player who recieved it through participating in a DM event doesn't sound bad to me at all. :D

I mean--does it make any sense for (using the example above!) Bob's Razor being handed over to Bob's alt, Jerry? I can't see how Jerry would have got it.
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Post by Jehannum »

If we had time, id like every item that dropped, be it special or mundane, to have a dasarian themed description.

We are working on it and it will come along over time.
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