Quests and the lone player
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Eli Rockbiter
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Quests and the lone player
I first would like to say I am enjoying the shard and the rp. But I have reached a point with my character where I am either too low or too high to do anything with anyone or let alone solo a quest by myself with out dieing. Is there anything a lone player can do to gain xp ? This has become very frustrating and discouraging .
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Chia
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Re: Quests and the lone player
From what I've seen... you aren't mean to solo anything by design.
Which does make sense, but unfortunately the server population appears too low to actually allow this.
Not to mention the fact that, for new players, exploration is pretty much prohibitive - a single death will usually drop you in the negatives even if you complete whatever quest you stumbled upon (which most often is actually not doable, anyway).
Also, some quests (Good Shai Hunting comes to mind, the missing girl in Cear to a lesser degree) seem to be made specifically toward min-maxed builds.
I know that, personally, I just grind the same quests (and, afterwards, piddly 10-15 xp per kill random spawns I can kill) over and over because every time I attempt to find out what's beyond another transition I end up frustrated. Particularly when the respawn point puts you right next to the critters that just killed you...
From what I've seen, aside from the occasional random group forming, the current approach is to befriend a player to run you through things they are aware of with their higher level and/or more powerful character.
I doubt anything can be really done with this, since it would require redesigning all the areas.
That said, shanghaiing some friends to boost up the average number of players is something you can do to alleviate the issue
... just don't mention to them why you really want them to play
As an aside, there is one thing I'd really like to see added: actual declaration what level range a quest is meant for. You know. In numbers. Like, (10-12), to be precise.
Too many times something I tried early on turns out undo-able, and by the time I come back to try it again I'm already out of level range.
Which, again, is something that seems to affect only new players, anyway, since folks who have played here a while already know the exact level range anyway.
Shouldn't require that much work to put it in, either, and would really, really help us clueless people.
Which does make sense, but unfortunately the server population appears too low to actually allow this.
Not to mention the fact that, for new players, exploration is pretty much prohibitive - a single death will usually drop you in the negatives even if you complete whatever quest you stumbled upon (which most often is actually not doable, anyway).
Also, some quests (Good Shai Hunting comes to mind, the missing girl in Cear to a lesser degree) seem to be made specifically toward min-maxed builds.
I know that, personally, I just grind the same quests (and, afterwards, piddly 10-15 xp per kill random spawns I can kill) over and over because every time I attempt to find out what's beyond another transition I end up frustrated. Particularly when the respawn point puts you right next to the critters that just killed you...
From what I've seen, aside from the occasional random group forming, the current approach is to befriend a player to run you through things they are aware of with their higher level and/or more powerful character.
I doubt anything can be really done with this, since it would require redesigning all the areas.
That said, shanghaiing some friends to boost up the average number of players is something you can do to alleviate the issue
... just don't mention to them why you really want them to play
As an aside, there is one thing I'd really like to see added: actual declaration what level range a quest is meant for. You know. In numbers. Like, (10-12), to be precise.
Too many times something I tried early on turns out undo-able, and by the time I come back to try it again I'm already out of level range.
Which, again, is something that seems to affect only new players, anyway, since folks who have played here a while already know the exact level range anyway.
Shouldn't require that much work to put it in, either, and would really, really help us clueless people.
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Peregrinus
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Re: Quests and the lone player
It is feasible to get from level 1 to 20 mainly soloing. I've done it, twice, on non-min-maxed builds. Of course I've also been here a long time and so know a lot of the things you can do.
First off, what level have you hit? I'd love to point you in the right direction, but without a level, I can't. ;p
There are dozens of quests that are eminently soloable; however, many other ones are not. Further, don't be afraid to hop on the IRC. There's almost always someone on who can try and help and give you direction.
First off, what level have you hit? I'd love to point you in the right direction, but without a level, I can't. ;p
There are dozens of quests that are eminently soloable; however, many other ones are not. Further, don't be afraid to hop on the IRC. There's almost always someone on who can try and help and give you direction.
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Eli Rockbiter
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Level 9 and 10 is where I am stuck at right now
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Yeah those are difficult levels hun. I'm stuck there myself
Hop on IRC sometime and see if I'm around, I'd love to team up in exchange for pies ;p
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Pere is right its possible (not so easy) but you must now the area/places very well. Have done it many off my characters.Peregrinus wrote:It is feasible to get from level 1 to 20 mainly soloing. ...
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Re: Quests and the lone player
How's it going to help a new player to tell him; "hey man you can solo this server, but you gotta know what you're doing really well"?
I mean. You know. Hahah. May it be a comfort!
I mean. You know. Hahah. May it be a comfort!
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Well i ment that when have been awhile in Das and start to now places its possible but yes if new player it's hard.
(Well nothing is here so hard if played Demo's or Dark souls thru)
Best way to learn places is explore careful.
Hmmm... well best way really is as it was ment to be is party up!
btw. one good hint is when play solo is have some invisible potion or wand to use. Damn it help in some quests a lot.
And if have characters like thief who can explore some areas in peace/quiet it help now some new areas too.
(Well nothing is here so hard if played Demo's or Dark souls thru)
Best way to learn places is explore careful.
Hmmm... well best way really is as it was ment to be is party up!
btw. one good hint is when play solo is have some invisible potion or wand to use. Damn it help in some quests a lot.
And if have characters like thief who can explore some areas in peace/quiet it help now some new areas too.
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Peregrinus
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Level 10 is a bit of a difficult spot to hit, however, you can get through it.
There's a couple of quests in Morell that are completely soloable/collection quests. Try talking to the woman by the statue in Morell and asking about the Temple of Teshalia. While heading to the town you can also escort the cow up the path and collect Morellian Mink pelts. While looking for the woman's companion in the Ruins of Daris, you can also look around. Assuming you've maxed your Lore skill, you can easily gain another few hundred XP just looking around the ruins, plus there's a few little things you can do there to help out, if you find them.
Meanwhile in Thrall's Gate, a huntress needs some Bear pelts, and there's a Dire Bear known as Tombar the Gray that you can likely tangle with. Further, the Lochwarians pay out a bounty on the bandits on the road to Aucklorn Mill, though you'll want to avoid their giant of a leader. If you have a way to reliably stealth, you can also take the missive from Thrall's Gate to the Mill and do a few errands around that town if you ask around. You may even be able to get some work in Two Bridges collecting Dead Man's Posy if you're so inclined, though the Koalisk may be to dangerous for you to tangle with.
Back in Cear, you still can help would with the nearby Bugbear clan that's acting up and finding the written lore of the ancient dwarves buried in their den. You even if you can't solo it, you probably can make it if you just get one more person to help you.
Finally, you can compete in the arena of Cear and show off your martial prowess to the crowds there for XP and profit. There's at least three or four quests there you can play through and that scale to your level, from 7 to 20. Further, some folks always need help, the Singing Seamstress never get tired of sending letters to her lover, and will ask anyone, absolutely anyone, to carry them for her. Miss Firestein of the Firestein Brewery also is always willing to give anyone work if they ask, from the lowliest adventurer to the loftiest Knight. Sure, it's kinda boring work, but it pays.
Hope all this helps.
There's a couple of quests in Morell that are completely soloable/collection quests. Try talking to the woman by the statue in Morell and asking about the Temple of Teshalia. While heading to the town you can also escort the cow up the path and collect Morellian Mink pelts. While looking for the woman's companion in the Ruins of Daris, you can also look around. Assuming you've maxed your Lore skill, you can easily gain another few hundred XP just looking around the ruins, plus there's a few little things you can do there to help out, if you find them.
Meanwhile in Thrall's Gate, a huntress needs some Bear pelts, and there's a Dire Bear known as Tombar the Gray that you can likely tangle with. Further, the Lochwarians pay out a bounty on the bandits on the road to Aucklorn Mill, though you'll want to avoid their giant of a leader. If you have a way to reliably stealth, you can also take the missive from Thrall's Gate to the Mill and do a few errands around that town if you ask around. You may even be able to get some work in Two Bridges collecting Dead Man's Posy if you're so inclined, though the Koalisk may be to dangerous for you to tangle with.
Back in Cear, you still can help would with the nearby Bugbear clan that's acting up and finding the written lore of the ancient dwarves buried in their den. You even if you can't solo it, you probably can make it if you just get one more person to help you.
Finally, you can compete in the arena of Cear and show off your martial prowess to the crowds there for XP and profit. There's at least three or four quests there you can play through and that scale to your level, from 7 to 20. Further, some folks always need help, the Singing Seamstress never get tired of sending letters to her lover, and will ask anyone, absolutely anyone, to carry them for her. Miss Firestein of the Firestein Brewery also is always willing to give anyone work if they ask, from the lowliest adventurer to the loftiest Knight. Sure, it's kinda boring work, but it pays.
Hope all this helps.
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Chia
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Edit: Eh, never mind 
As an aside, there is also a quest in the Cuhannan mansion in Thrall's gate that, while requiring suspension of roleplaying for most, is decent experience for what amounts to some running (fast, fast running)
Also, you might be running into equipment issues at this point - +2 gear is hideously expensive to buy back from the sellers, and good luck finding a crafter with that big of a difference in prices compared to the NPC stores
Actually, that reminds me - I have yet to find the simplest enchanting essence, and that's used for +1 items which by then are already to low to help much. What gives?
As an aside, there is also a quest in the Cuhannan mansion in Thrall's gate that, while requiring suspension of roleplaying for most, is decent experience for what amounts to some running (fast, fast running)
Also, you might be running into equipment issues at this point - +2 gear is hideously expensive to buy back from the sellers, and good luck finding a crafter with that big of a difference in prices compared to the NPC stores
Actually, that reminds me - I have yet to find the simplest enchanting essence, and that's used for +1 items which by then are already to low to help much. What gives?
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Eli Rockbiter
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Re: Quests and the lone player
I have Mirc but it has been a long time since I used it . And Eli a take all the pies you want to give himYeah those are difficult levels hun. I'm stuck there myselfHop on IRC sometime and see if I'm around, I'd love to team up in exchange for pies ;p
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Eli Rockbiter
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Thanks everyone for the advice . I will try and see what I can do alone if not I will just wait till I can party up with some one .
Also can anyone tell me where the Irc info is ? I been looking on the site cant find it.
Also can anyone tell me where the Irc info is ? I been looking on the site cant find it.
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Re: Quests and the lone player
Also - if I recall the commoners in Cear tell all about quests for your level... Might just be within Cear, but it'll help you a bit anyways 
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