OOC: The Order of the Diamond

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:42 pm

OOC Chat about establishing the Order of the Diamond here.

The process:

1. Test the level of interest. Only IC expressions of interest shall be accepted; completed

2. Petition the Governor for approval; completed

3. On approval Establish the faction, and a steering committee created, to be chaired by Latishe; Completed

4. The committee shall iron out the rules with guidance from Latishe. (Note most of the rules have already been written up, but they need to be sanity checked); Completed

5. Rules agreed. Recruitment begins, with persons who have expressed IC interest getting first priority;

6. Initial recruitment closed, Operations begin

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:42 pm

Reserved for FAQ

Please read an overview of The Order of The Diamond first before asking any questions

So what is this all about?
We are setting up a faction so that crafters can safely share recipes, materials and advice in an in-game collegial environment. A hidden faction will also be setup to discuss other crafting relating matters.

Great! so I join the order and can get access to all the recipes written down in the hidden faction forum?
No. You will need to find a Master crafter in the Order to teach you the recipes in-game, in-character. The Master crafter may also require you to do tasks before teaching you a specific recipe. To avoid metagaming, it is asked that no crafting recipes are to be published in the hidden faction forum. However IC treatises would be greatly appreciated and would add a lot of RP colour to Das2 crafting.

What!? So I am stuck with the same Master crafter?
Not at all, you will be allowed to move from crafter to crafter as you see fit. However again it must be done in-game and in-character. We intend to use the faction forum so people can publish what they are capable of crafting as they wish, as well as any hints or tips or treatises. The fun factor is keeping this information IC i.e. just like Will Smith's treatise on Trolls. Lets make crafting an immersive, fun, and collegial experience

What about materials?
Latishe will be recommending to the Steering committee to set up a bank so that players can contribute materials to the Order of the Diamond for use by its members. Latishe will also be recommending the establishment of an incentive scheme so that non-crafters who contribute rare items (such as adamantite, power essences or rare gems) will get a discount off the price of an item created for them by members of the Order.

So any member will be able to access the crafting bank?
No. Latishe will be recommending to the Steering Committee that this bank is treated like a university grants system i.e. a crafter puts up an IC submission on the faction forum, which is then assessed and approved. The crafter then receives the materials, conducts his experiments and then reports back on the results IC. This how the body of crafting knowledge can hopefully be expanded.

I'd like to join, but I'm already part of another guild or faction
Generally it is unacceptable for characters to be part of multiple factions because of the possibility of metagaming. However I think the Order of the Diamond is an exception to this rule because it is solely concerned about crafting. The Order and Brintha cares not for politics, plots or personalities as long as you're not a Heretic or Enemy of the State. As an example, it would be quite acceptable to be part of the Provincial Mage faction, and be a member of the Order of the Diamond.

What about the Provincial Mages Guild?
Personally I think it would be quite acceptable for a character to be part of the Provincial Mages Guild, and and the Order of the Diamond. I'd also suggest there would be a high level of cooperation between both guilds on a number of matters pertaining to crafting, as it is in the interests of both guilds to ensure that crafting knowledge remains in the right hands. There would also be other factions that the Order of the Diamond would be interested in cooperating with for mutual benefit.

I'm a Drow, can I join the Order of the Diamond?
At this stage, yes. However the final decision on accepting Drow members would need to be discussed by the Steering committee. To be up front Latishe would be recommending to the Steering Committee not to accept Drow members.

Hooray at last I won't be ripped off!
Latishe will be recommending to the Steering Committee that a realistic supply and demand model is implemented. The order simply will not survive if crafters attempt to charge players 100,000 gold for an item which that same player can easily make themselves after levelling a crafting alt for a week. Similarly, crafters who have figured out rare and powerful recipes should be rewarded for their countless hours of experimentation. Also it would be good to set some expectations about pricing so people can plan for the costs and/or materials.

Is the Order of the Diamond going to be run by Latishe Vaine?
No. The Order is to be run by the Master Crafters. Latishe, as a Priestess of Brintha is just assisting with the establishment of the order, and is there to offer the wisdom of the Earthmother as required. Latishe would hope though, if you join the order that you would at least give Brintha her due

What's the point of Latishe being a Priestess of Brintha then?
Two words: For fun

Latishe is also not a crafter, as I felt from an IC point of view, being a Priestess of Brintha would be busy enough as it is. For same reason this is why Latishe cannot be part of the senior hierarchy of the Order of The Diamond, as Latishe must be seen to be the divine representative of all crafters. Does this mean that a Priestess of Brintha is irrelevant? No. Latishe represents an officially sanctioned religion of the Empire of Varana, and those who would seek to threaten the Empire, The Order of the Diamond, or the crafting profession in general would be met with ruthless retribution.

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:43 pm

Reserved for responses to questions

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:45 pm

Reserved for list of characters expressing interest in joining the Order of the Diamond

- Graham Mantlegyr
- Amnon Meshullam
- Thrar
- Friam Fole
- Sirius Sejanus Calasthere
- Jade Spirit
- Withern Tauer
- Sion Tir'ein
- Tiareth Baelavain

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:41 am

progress updated.

once the rules have been decided, IC invitations will be sent out to those who have indicated IC they wish to join the Order. I reckon 2-3 weeks for this task to be completed.

Thank you for your continued patience

SnorriHT · Post by **SnorriHT** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:22 pm

Please note that the Order of the Diamond will be ready for business within the next 7 days. Those who have previously requested to join will be contacted over the next few days. Those who are would like to join, please put your name down in the IC: Order of the Diamond thread.

Bengrizzly · Post by **Bengrizzly** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:14 pm

WHere do i sign up for the crafters guild I can't find the sign up sheet

coruscadragon · Post by **coruscadragon** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:54 am

Have expressed interested IC, (on IC forums, at least) but thought i'd post here too just to make sure =P

char goes by the title of "X" though his name is shown as "Niliferous" currently IG (will be trying to get this changed as it is to confusing telling people to call him one thing when he has something different floating above his head...)

Bobzim · Post by **Bobzim** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:32 pm

The Order of the Diamond recruitment list is being put together now and we will begin contacting you in the next few days. Thanks for your patience.

Nicolai Protivnik · Post by **Nicolai Protivnik** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:02 am

I am very interested in this, unfortunately it looks like I came at the very last moment...I'd be glad to meet IC as well, but this is the first I've seen of the guild.

Bobzim · Post by **Bobzim** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:33 pm

We are actively engaged in recruiting new members to the Order of the Diamond. If you have interviewed with us, and been invited to join, please log in to the private forum, sign the Oath, add your "Hello" to our "Welcome" thread, and enter your biographical information.

If you are still waiting for an interview, please be patient. Due to RL play times and obligations, we can only do a few each week. These interviews are typically done at around 10 p.m. EST (i.e., server time). If you can not be online at that time, please PM me and we will try to find an alternative.

Thanks for your patience.

Toledo · Post by **Toledo** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:50 am

I also am very interested and have signed up IC in the appro[riate forum (name is Muertedora Delnoche) I am sorry for the short rp post but my character is a vast new land, and he is still young, not fully confident altho he can come across that way.

Toman Ironarm · Post by **Toman Ironarm** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:57 am

I've also expressed interest IC (on the forums) about joining. Just wanted ot make sure my name got tossed into the hat. Anway, looking for to running into someone IC in game.

-Toman Ironarm

Bobzim · Post by **Bobzim** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:44 pm

Thanks for your interest guys. As you probably know, things move somewhat slowly on Das2. If you see me IG, please send me a tell and I will conduct your interview. Ditto if you see Friam Fole (player list name Doc Odd).

Toledo · Post by **Toledo** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:13 am

bozim,
no worries bud. I just got back from colorado for an interview. I am still interested but my time in dasaria for the next couple of weeks will be limited at best because of my move. I will be back tho, no worries

If possible, maybe we can communicate via PM since I will be on others PC for at least a week