New NWN2 Expansion Announced

[Greyshore]

About a year ago, North Cear was double as huge and the crashes were even worse. One would crash constantly, only being able to log in at from the fifth to the eigth try. Then the farmlands were separated, bringing a noticeable decrease number of crashes when transitioning into NC though one'd still crash once or twice. Since then I always thought the ammount of content in an area played a role in the crashes, though still not being the definite cause which Obsidian is still trying to find. North Cear has several Npc's, creatures, buildings, quests not to mention beautiful flora, from trees to bushes. If these play a bigger part in the crashing (if really any at all), folks will know it after Obsidian finds whatever else is influencing the general crashes.

[Thracius Trueblade]

Usually when I crash, it seems to be when I'm transitioning into the trades & commons district. I'd agree with Noa that the larger the area, the greater the chance of crashing. What it could be though is anyone's guess..... it looks like even Obsidian don't have a clue and they are the ones who made the game

[hannahcoldkiller]

Even if it is not related to crashes, I think it still might be a good idea to trim some of the content out of NC or move it somewhere else. The guy that sells arrows and torches is kind of superfluous and can be absorbed into Ealden. The riddle lady rarely gets used anymore (poor gal) since she was moved. I still think she is a good addition to the server, but she could probably be moved to an inn. Perhaps eliminating the wandering NPCs and one or two guards could help. The guard in the heist quest could easily replace one of the other guards in NC or elsewhere.

NC is a good place for players to congregate, and it's good to have starter quests in a place that new players can easily find, but with everything combined, IC conversations get interrupted by long quest dialog and the area tends to lag the more players are there.

Cutting the area in half might help also, leaving a small area north of the gate for invasions and moving the bugbear and goblin hill to another map (i'm not sure this is feasible or easy to do). Trimming the areas east and west of the buildings might help too. Move the walls closer to the buildings and cut out all that open green space.

again, don't know if any of this is doable or would help...

[Wired]

Any additional changes would be based on pure speculation at this point. The only thing we can say for sure is that the more players on the server, the more frequently transition crashes occur.

There should be partial relief in the next patch, as well as a debugging facility provided by the vendor. If there's any sort of optionality there, I strongly encourage players to submit the crashlogs!

I'll get around to moving the riddle lady at some point, but it's cheaters that really ruined her.

[Bobzim]

Just a note, before das, I played on about 8 pws looking for a good one, and none of them had even a tenth of as many transition crashes as das does. It's a dasaria only problem apparently as far as I know, anyone got any clue as to why?

You couldn't be more wrong...it happens on most PWs. I think one reason that Das may exhibit the problem more than other servers has to do with the way it was built. That is, Das does not havea World Map system, like many other PWs. So when you "log in" you are in Misty and must zone to North Cear. Most transition crashes happen when moving into North Cear or T&C. These are the two biggest areas in Das, and it is likely that the transition crashes happen when moving to these areas because other folks are trying to log in at th same time.

Also, the reduced frequency of transition crashes on Das most likely has to do with the reduced player population. If this serr had 40 peeps on regularly, there would likely be WAY more crashes, as was the case when the server had a more stable population.

[Zephis]

My guess its something to do with increasing numbers of players causing additional packet loss which means when server is sending you data it is corrupted, NWN2 spazzes and crashes.

[ChikenKannon]

I really hope it's not due to NPCs and scenery since NC actually looks like it's populated by people rather than an open and barren wasteland... with houses.